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		<title>By: Here come the MonaVie lawyers&#8230;&#160;&#124;&#160;Sequence Inc. Fraud Files Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Here come the MonaVie lawyers&#8230;&#160;&#124;&#160;Sequence Inc. Fraud Files Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 22:07:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] my original write-up on Mona Vie. The company is a typical MLM&#8230; Get people to recruit under the guise of selling a miracle [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] my original write-up on Mona Vie. The company is a typical MLM&#8230; Get people to recruit under the guise of selling a miracle [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Tracy Coenen</title>
		<link>http://www.sequenceinc.com/fraudfiles/2008/06/30/monavie-scam-or-not/comment-page-3/#comment-165907</link>
		<dc:creator>Tracy Coenen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 04:16:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, Charlie. You still don&#039;t get it. All you have to do is eat a well-balanced diet that has a fair amount of nutrition in it and take a multivitamin and you&#039;re good. No, a decent diet doesn&#039;t have to cost a lot. You need to eat, right? Even if you take the magic juice? So just put forth a small amount of effort when you&#039;re eating and take a vitamin and you&#039;re good to go. No overpriced magic potion necessary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, Charlie. You still don&#8217;t get it. All you have to do is eat a well-balanced diet that has a fair amount of nutrition in it and take a multivitamin and you&#8217;re good. No, a decent diet doesn&#8217;t have to cost a lot. You need to eat, right? Even if you take the magic juice? So just put forth a small amount of effort when you&#8217;re eating and take a vitamin and you&#8217;re good to go. No overpriced magic potion necessary.</p>
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		<title>By: Charlie</title>
		<link>http://www.sequenceinc.com/fraudfiles/2008/06/30/monavie-scam-or-not/comment-page-3/#comment-165902</link>
		<dc:creator>Charlie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 02:58:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you know, I was following some of the links posted here and some of your &quot;highly respected&quot; posters have been found to have been people other than who they say they are. In fact, they themselves have been touted as being scammers. 

This post by: Joyce Lewis Says:
12 Aug 08 at 11:47 pm 

with this link: http://www.scam.com/showthread.php?t=44032&amp;highlight=monavie

actually has someone who knows this person and names them and their scam if you read the entire blog post you&#039;ll see. I love the internet, you can be who ever you want!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you know, I was following some of the links posted here and some of your &#8220;highly respected&#8221; posters have been found to have been people other than who they say they are. In fact, they themselves have been touted as being scammers. </p>
<p>This post by: Joyce Lewis Says:<br />
12 Aug 08 at 11:47 pm </p>
<p>with this link: <a href="http://www.scam.com/showthread.php?t=44032&amp;highlight=monavie" rel="nofollow">http://www.scam.com/showthread.php?t=44032&amp;highlight=monavie</a></p>
<p>actually has someone who knows this person and names them and their scam if you read the entire blog post you&#8217;ll see. I love the internet, you can be who ever you want!</p>
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		<title>By: Charlie</title>
		<link>http://www.sequenceinc.com/fraudfiles/2008/06/30/monavie-scam-or-not/comment-page-3/#comment-165899</link>
		<dc:creator>Charlie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 02:30:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>very good! The ORAC value per gram of prunes is high, about 577. And eating the variety of foods is the proper nutritional way. But I don&#039;t know, you see, I do eat stuff such as that but it doesn&#039;t seem to work as well as my magic elixir. The juice would be full od sugar and added water so that&#039;s not all that great for you, the lettuce we would get here in so.cal would be full of crap from over fertilizing and bug sprays. I guess I could go to the organic store and pick some up for a buck or two more. But now that I think of it, it&#039;s gonna cost me more to do it your way than to do it my way. And, it&#039;s just a shot glass and I&#039;m on my way. Hmmmmm, just to easy I guess. People do need this, you may not. You may take the time and the effort to create a lifestyle dinner or lunch or breakfast, but most don&#039;t and never will. That&#039;s where we come in, fast and easy and it tastes good. 4.50 a day and you can go kill your self at McDonalds and still have your daily nutrition from ORGANIC foods. Not supplements filled with chemicals. Go ahead if you want, but not me, I see the benefit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>very good! The ORAC value per gram of prunes is high, about 577. And eating the variety of foods is the proper nutritional way. But I don&#8217;t know, you see, I do eat stuff such as that but it doesn&#8217;t seem to work as well as my magic elixir. The juice would be full od sugar and added water so that&#8217;s not all that great for you, the lettuce we would get here in so.cal would be full of crap from over fertilizing and bug sprays. I guess I could go to the organic store and pick some up for a buck or two more. But now that I think of it, it&#8217;s gonna cost me more to do it your way than to do it my way. And, it&#8217;s just a shot glass and I&#8217;m on my way. Hmmmmm, just to easy I guess. People do need this, you may not. You may take the time and the effort to create a lifestyle dinner or lunch or breakfast, but most don&#8217;t and never will. That&#8217;s where we come in, fast and easy and it tastes good. 4.50 a day and you can go kill your self at McDonalds and still have your daily nutrition from ORGANIC foods. Not supplements filled with chemicals. Go ahead if you want, but not me, I see the benefit.</p>
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		<title>By: Tracy Coenen</title>
		<link>http://www.sequenceinc.com/fraudfiles/2008/06/30/monavie-scam-or-not/comment-page-3/#comment-165897</link>
		<dc:creator>Tracy Coenen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 01:49:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Go eat a few prunes and you&#039;ll get the same ORAC value or more. Better yet, have a salad for lunch with a variety of vegetables, and you&#039;ll get the same ORAC value or more.

They are selling you magic potion that you don&#039;t need. But nothing I can say will convince you how silly this is. Drink a little juice, have a little salad, pop a multi-vitamin from Target, and you&#039;ll have what you need.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Go eat a few prunes and you&#8217;ll get the same ORAC value or more. Better yet, have a salad for lunch with a variety of vegetables, and you&#8217;ll get the same ORAC value or more.</p>
<p>They are selling you magic potion that you don&#8217;t need. But nothing I can say will convince you how silly this is. Drink a little juice, have a little salad, pop a multi-vitamin from Target, and you&#8217;ll have what you need.</p>
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		<title>By: Charlie</title>
		<link>http://www.sequenceinc.com/fraudfiles/2008/06/30/monavie-scam-or-not/comment-page-3/#comment-165895</link>
		<dc:creator>Charlie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 01:34:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sigh.....we could all use a little brain cleaning now and again....Lets pretend that I&#039;m from Missouri and &quot;Show me.&quot; Look, 4 ounces of Mona Vie gives you about (over) 4,000 ORAC value a day. Show me a juice at the store that for 4 or 5 bucks a day will do the same. I know that I&#039;ll never sway you from your beliefs on MLM, but the juice is the real deal. If not, why are there so many who just consume it and dont sell it? A body is recommended to receive 5,000 Orac value a day. With proper diet along with the juice, a much healthier lifestyle is created. I can see that you are an educated person, highly qualified in your field, and I respect you highly for that. But it appears that in the case of the science behind this juice you haven&#039;t really done your due diligence. The science is there, if you would like I could post it here for you or send you links. I love debate, but no one on here brings the facts to the table. I will.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sigh&#8230;..we could all use a little brain cleaning now and again&#8230;.Lets pretend that I&#8217;m from Missouri and &#8220;Show me.&#8221; Look, 4 ounces of Mona Vie gives you about (over) 4,000 ORAC value a day. Show me a juice at the store that for 4 or 5 bucks a day will do the same. I know that I&#8217;ll never sway you from your beliefs on MLM, but the juice is the real deal. If not, why are there so many who just consume it and dont sell it? A body is recommended to receive 5,000 Orac value a day. With proper diet along with the juice, a much healthier lifestyle is created. I can see that you are an educated person, highly qualified in your field, and I respect you highly for that. But it appears that in the case of the science behind this juice you haven&#8217;t really done your due diligence. The science is there, if you would like I could post it here for you or send you links. I love debate, but no one on here brings the facts to the table. I will.</p>
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		<title>By: Tracy Coenen</title>
		<link>http://www.sequenceinc.com/fraudfiles/2008/06/30/monavie-scam-or-not/comment-page-3/#comment-165892</link>
		<dc:creator>Tracy Coenen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 00:56:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can get plenty of antioxidants from juice in the store.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can get plenty of antioxidants from juice in the store.</p>
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		<title>By: Charlie</title>
		<link>http://www.sequenceinc.com/fraudfiles/2008/06/30/monavie-scam-or-not/comment-page-3/#comment-165890</link>
		<dc:creator>Charlie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 00:53:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tracy, that&#039;s where we have to have our difference then. You cannot get a juice at the store that is as high in antioxidant value with as many different fruits in it for the variety your body needs. No one makes one, and for the 4 bucks a day it costs, there is no better value. 10-13 organic fruits a day would cost you way more and you probably couldn&#039;t eat that many anyway. As for the business plan, just as in ANY business you have to work hard and there are no guarantees. For crying out loud it costs 39 bucks for start up, not several hundred thousand as in most conventional traditional business&#039;s. There&#039;s no guarantee you&#039;ll succeed at those either.Trust me, I pay attention. You know that I do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tracy, that&#8217;s where we have to have our difference then. You cannot get a juice at the store that is as high in antioxidant value with as many different fruits in it for the variety your body needs. No one makes one, and for the 4 bucks a day it costs, there is no better value. 10-13 organic fruits a day would cost you way more and you probably couldn&#8217;t eat that many anyway. As for the business plan, just as in ANY business you have to work hard and there are no guarantees. For crying out loud it costs 39 bucks for start up, not several hundred thousand as in most conventional traditional business&#8217;s. There&#8217;s no guarantee you&#8217;ll succeed at those either.Trust me, I pay attention. You know that I do.</p>
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		<title>By: Tracy Coenen</title>
		<link>http://www.sequenceinc.com/fraudfiles/2008/06/30/monavie-scam-or-not/comment-page-3/#comment-165888</link>
		<dc:creator>Tracy Coenen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 00:32:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I never said there was anything wrong with the juice. Just that you don&#039;t have to spend that much on juice to get the vitamins and benefits. I don&#039;t argue that it&#039;s good for you. It&#039;s just that there are juices that are equally as good for you and are found in the grocery store for a fraction of the price. (And I promise they don&#039;t have any steroids in them!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I never said there was anything wrong with the juice. Just that you don&#8217;t have to spend that much on juice to get the vitamins and benefits. I don&#8217;t argue that it&#8217;s good for you. It&#8217;s just that there are juices that are equally as good for you and are found in the grocery store for a fraction of the price. (And I promise they don&#8217;t have any steroids in them!)</p>
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		<title>By: Charlie</title>
		<link>http://www.sequenceinc.com/fraudfiles/2008/06/30/monavie-scam-or-not/comment-page-3/#comment-165884</link>
		<dc:creator>Charlie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Oct 2008 22:54:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seriously, I don&#039;t care who you are, you can&#039;t find all the berries and fruits used in Mona Vie at any store. Look, bash the MLM all you want. I really don&#039;t care. But the product it&#039;s self is the real deal. Too many people are getting positive results from drinking it. If you don&#039;t like the business model of MLM that would be a fair opinion. Not everybody is cut out for that. But, the product has been scrutinized by the FDA and they have not found anything wrong with it. They say to make no claims. I don&#039;t. It isn&#039;t a drug, it doesn&#039;t cure anything. But it does, scientifically, give your body what it needs to promote better health. Too many athletes are drinking it at this point for your proposal that you can get better stuff at the store. Wouldn&#039;t they get the better stuff at the store if it was there? Yes. It has been passed by the World Anti-Doping Agency. Heres the proof....

Athletic Banned Substances Screening Program Results
Products Reviewed: MonaVie Active Juice, MonaVie (Original) Juice
Overall Analytical Findings:*
• MonaVie Active Juice: Pass ????
• MonaVie (Original) Juice: Pass ????
Categories of Banned Substances Tested:
• Beta Blockers: None Detected
• Diuretics: None Detected
• Narcotics: None Detected
• Anabolic Steroids: None Detected
• Stimulants: None Detected
• Masking Agents: None Detected
Banned Substance
Testing covers banned substances (parent drug and metabolites) representing the 2007 World
Anti-Doping Agency (WADA) Prohibited List, consisting of over 170 substances. The
substances tested are from the following six categories and are those that can be tested in
supplements (limited in comparison to what can be tested for in blood and urine).
• Stimulants and related compounds
• Narcotics and related substances
• Anabolic agents and related substances
• Diuretics and related substances
• Masking agents and related substances
• Beta blockers and related substances
Testing Methods
Screening involves one or more appropriate analytical methods, e.g., HPLC and GC, and
includes spiking and recovery of certain compounds to ensure proper extraction.
Confirmation of any detected banned substance is made by mass spectroscopy.
Passing Score†
To pass, a product must contain no confirmed banned substance at a “zero-tolerance level”—
defined by the recovery rate of a substance, as well as its limits of detection in a given matrix.
* Product tests performed by ConsumerLab.com, LLC, an independent laboratory not associated with MonaVie.
† Passing scores allow for specific margins of technical error associated with each analysis. ConsumerLab.com reserves
the right to disqualify a product at any time from passing its testing if it considers such product to present a safety risk
or to provide misleading or inaccurate information in its labeling.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seriously, I don&#8217;t care who you are, you can&#8217;t find all the berries and fruits used in Mona Vie at any store. Look, bash the MLM all you want. I really don&#8217;t care. But the product it&#8217;s self is the real deal. Too many people are getting positive results from drinking it. If you don&#8217;t like the business model of MLM that would be a fair opinion. Not everybody is cut out for that. But, the product has been scrutinized by the FDA and they have not found anything wrong with it. They say to make no claims. I don&#8217;t. It isn&#8217;t a drug, it doesn&#8217;t cure anything. But it does, scientifically, give your body what it needs to promote better health. Too many athletes are drinking it at this point for your proposal that you can get better stuff at the store. Wouldn&#8217;t they get the better stuff at the store if it was there? Yes. It has been passed by the World Anti-Doping Agency. Heres the proof&#8230;.</p>
<p>Athletic Banned Substances Screening Program Results<br />
Products Reviewed: MonaVie Active Juice, MonaVie (Original) Juice<br />
Overall Analytical Findings:*<br />
• MonaVie Active Juice: Pass ????<br />
• MonaVie (Original) Juice: Pass ????<br />
Categories of Banned Substances Tested:<br />
• Beta Blockers: None Detected<br />
• Diuretics: None Detected<br />
• Narcotics: None Detected<br />
• Anabolic Steroids: None Detected<br />
• Stimulants: None Detected<br />
• Masking Agents: None Detected<br />
Banned Substance<br />
Testing covers banned substances (parent drug and metabolites) representing the 2007 World<br />
Anti-Doping Agency (WADA) Prohibited List, consisting of over 170 substances. The<br />
substances tested are from the following six categories and are those that can be tested in<br />
supplements (limited in comparison to what can be tested for in blood and urine).<br />
• Stimulants and related compounds<br />
• Narcotics and related substances<br />
• Anabolic agents and related substances<br />
• Diuretics and related substances<br />
• Masking agents and related substances<br />
• Beta blockers and related substances<br />
Testing Methods<br />
Screening involves one or more appropriate analytical methods, e.g., HPLC and GC, and<br />
includes spiking and recovery of certain compounds to ensure proper extraction.<br />
Confirmation of any detected banned substance is made by mass spectroscopy.<br />
Passing Score†<br />
To pass, a product must contain no confirmed banned substance at a “zero-tolerance level”—<br />
defined by the recovery rate of a substance, as well as its limits of detection in a given matrix.<br />
* Product tests performed by ConsumerLab.com, LLC, an independent laboratory not associated with MonaVie.<br />
† Passing scores allow for specific margins of technical error associated with each analysis. ConsumerLab.com reserves<br />
the right to disqualify a product at any time from passing its testing if it considers such product to present a safety risk<br />
or to provide misleading or inaccurate information in its labeling.</p>
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