Comments on: Amway sucks! Quixtar sucks! Alticor sucks!

By: Someone Important

Someone Important — Fri, 10 Apr 2009 03:37:38 +0000

Ok I am currently a college student looking into becoming an IBO and have heard the “Amway is the key to success” side so i decided to check out the other side of the argument just for kicks and giggles only to find all these sites calling this company a pyramid scam and so forth…my only input is it is a “BUSINESS” run it like one… If you do not create enough income to purchase your CD’s or “Tools” with your pure profit then don’t purchase them… It is simple do not spend more than you make…3rd grade economics here… Even if every single person in the company is telling you that you have to have the newest CD doesn’t mean you have to buy it…. Of course you will never make an actual income if you spend more than you make… It is as simple as that run it just as any normal business person would don’t spend more than you make its that easy and if you do that you are guaranteed 100% that you will make profit…I can say this because if you use the purchasing of products correctly (buying the everyday products you would buy anyway ie from Walmart from yourself instead of another retail store you will then in return earn points thus earning you money) then you would not spend money on things that you wouldn’t normally buy anyways ie shampoo or deodorant… All i can say is it is purely that simple.. granted you probably wont make “Diamond” or Millions of dollars this way but you will make profit… and as a college student any amount of profit is more than i had to start with…

By: DePrin

DePrin — Sun, 15 Mar 2009 19:37:43 +0000

Listen, its simple. If your not capable of taking responsibility for your own decisions such as getting into MLM or any other business opportunity for that matter, then don’t do it. Success or failure is not chance or luck, nor is it tied to specific rules, tools, or fools.

Speaking of pyramids and scams have you taken a look at your company’s organization chart lately?? And who strated that hype about spending your career investing in your company and retiring safely after 20 years?

Free enterprise is the backbone of this country. I applaud those who have the guts to keep trying even against the odds. God knows its no less secure than corporate America. What have we got to lose??? Our jobs??

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By: Mr Contrarian

Mr Contrarian — Mon, 17 Nov 2008 08:53:03 +0000

good work tracy. I am a business blogger with no pro- or con- affiliation with Amway. I have written and researched extensively about Amway the past 10 days on my blog, http://www.2035crash.com. Amway is in the RETAIL business. NO ONE has to twist my arm to go buy a foot-long sub, ipod, or flat-panel TV. If the retail case and business model for Amway was so great, people would be lined up around the block to buy the product, and IBOs would not be trying to build a downline. Rather, they would put efforts into trying to consolidate their target market. With the internet, who needs a downline? If the product was so good, then I could drive traffic to my own site and collect retail commissions all for myself, without having to pay any bonuses out to a downline apparatus. Bottom line: Amway Global is only $7B of annualized sales. Walmart is $400B. even Avon, just selling cosmetics, is $10B. Amway’s line of cosmetics, Artistry, is only worth $1B/year, or 10% the size of Avon. Amway North America is only $1B a year of total sales, which isn’t even worth mentioning in the largest retail market in the world: North America.

This is RETAIL. If your product is so good, why in the world does your sales force need TOOLS to help you sell it?

By: Don't know

Don't know — Thu, 04 Sep 2008 16:26:34 +0000

After I read all post, I don’t know that why most of IBO that do business need to use tools or cd and spend a lot of money for it?. you think that if you buy all that things, It will make you fast success in business then you buy it ?
It’s a business , if you want to do business it has many way to do, many way to think of how to do. Selling product or buy tools or cd to help you success isn’t the only way in the world that make you success.
Everyone can do many way to make they gain not loss in business.
This business , it allow you to build you business from low investment to get higher return not high investment to get low return.
++So if you think that buy all that tools or cd make you lost. Why don’t you skip it and think how to business by low investment to get high return.
I’m not in your country so I don’t know the way you guy thinking of doing business.
But I can told you that If you can find the way to low investment to got high return like my group. you will be happy with you business and your group and you will be happy that you don’t need sell a lot of product or by expensive tools that make you lost.
Best reguard
ps. if you can do like me even you didn’t reach DD you can gain income not loss = =

By: LiquidSquid

LiquidSquid — Sat, 16 Aug 2008 05:19:16 +0000

Hello everyone,

I’m a part-time Quixtar IBO and also own a Internet business. Quixtar is a legit mlm business but to succeed in it is very hard. Many people in the business do not “totally” understand that business is mostly about money and profit. If you are a Quixtar IBO making $1,000 a month but you are spending $2,000 a month buying their overpriced core products, you will not be in business for long. This is what happens to many people in the business, I heard of IBOs at the 4,000 pv level quitting because they are not making profit.

I’m a person that is very open minded but I’m also a critical thinker and very independent. While in the biz, I studied my upline and other IBOs very closely. A few things that I noticed about the active Quixtar IBOs is that they believe in the system way too much that they don’t see the flaws. It’s almost like they are brainwashed (meant this in a nice way). In order to build a successful business, you first need to build it on faith because you are not going to see results right away. You need to be persistence, committed and very patient…if you are going to invest less than 20 hours per a week in the biz. You are better off quitting because you will most likely fail. Then again, any true business owners know that failing is a good thing in business because that means you are one step closer to succeeding!

I followed my upline for about 6 months and did not like the results so I took my own path. I ended up combining all the knowledge I learned from my upline with my knowledge and found a way to “better the wheel”. After 3 months of going on my own, I started to break even at the 300 pv level. I did this by canceling the CDs and other unnecessary cost, signing up more customers, and finding more effective way to find “targeted” customers and potential IBOs. The trick is to have people invest their time in you instead of you investing your time in them. Easier said then done!

Every mlm business has its flaws because there are always people in the business that will take advantage of you. If you think that the Quixtar biz is a gift from heaven then you are just lying to yourself. To all Quixtar IBOs – you are no better than anybody else. If you do become successful, remember that the reason why you are successful is because of other people in the world. Without them you are nothing! Treat everybody like they are multi-millionaires and you might one day become one. Peace!

Forgot two thing:
1. If you are a Quixtar IBO, you are actually not a Independent Business Owner but more of a distributor. As a Quixtar IBO, Quixtar pretty much owns you. If you do not follow their rules of conduct…bye bye! Quixtar changed the name to IBO because it just sounds more “professional”.

2. The amount of money claimed by platinum, emeralds and diamonds make per year is bogus. Some diamonds say they make over $200,000 per year but they are lucky if they make 6 figures. If we are talking about profit (revenue – cost) then the amount of money they make is even less. Sorry to disappoint you all.

By: Joecool

Joecool — Thu, 14 Aug 2008 21:38:21 +0000

The tools scam is Tex’s priority and he thinks that everyoen else needs to get with hsi program. Not true, the busienss has many issues, some of which have nothing to do with tools. The business model is set up so that the majority do the work to profit the minority.

By: George Bailey

George Bailey — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 08:13:19 +0000

Right now, the British government is trying to shut ‘Amway UK’ down in the ‘interest of the British public. ‘ On paper, ‘Amway UK Ltd.’ has never made a profit . It’s lost over $50 million in the last 8 years, but the chronically sick company is paying out millions of dollars more to attorneys to keep it alive. This doesn’t make any sense until you understand what’s hiding behind the MLM façade. The real money, which is probably hundreds of millions of dollars in the UK, has been made from selling the lie that ‘anyone can achieve financial freedom in 2-5 years. ‘ The whole set up is an advanced fee fraud using essentially the same tactics as the Nigerian Bank scam. ‘Amway’ is the bait. Victims are led to believe there’s a fat packet of money to collect, but they’ve first to hand over their own cash in order to get it.

Let’s face it, If MLM worked, there would be no need for all the supporting materials .

By: Porkchopjim

Porkchopjim — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 16:47:39 +0000

If you are against MLM in general, I feel sorry for you, because you obviously are comparing MLM to perfection rather than traditional businesses, which also have a high failure rate.

Incorrect, as usual. Please find where 99% of real businesses don’t make any money.

And again, please read the studies that are abused which say most of the businesses that are started are not in existence 5 years later. The ‘tools’ tell you it is because they failed. The actual information tells you tells you the real story – ‘most’ businesses do quite well and aren’t in existence after 5 years because they are sold, closed because the demand was met (with profit), and closed because the owner used that business to begin something else (with profit). Some do fail, but not with the almost sure rate of failure with this particular MLM.