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By: justme

justme — Thu, 20 Aug 2009 16:16:30 +0000

Go Tracy!! way to uncover Jason as a liar to to portray MLM as what is. A false promise of riches to those who need it the most. People invest their hard earned money in the hype of things to later find out it was all a lie. Jason, you are just another brain-washed pencil pusher who is defending MLM to feel better about yourself and the mistake you’ve made. get out of it and stop rippin’ people off

By: Tracy Coenen

Tracy Coenen — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 23:22:50 +0000

Yep, pure urban legend. No facts involved.

By: nobody

nobody — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 20:44:18 +0000

Maybe this was Jason’s source
http://www.internetnextstep.com/mlmsecret.htm

By: Norman

Norman — Fri, 29 Aug 2008 04:00:24 +0000

It will sound quite ironical. I supported Tracy and her comments even though I am in network marketing for more than 10 years and have had much successes. MLM is like an addiction and disease to me. Once I am caught in it, it’s hard to come out of it. I am still into one of the online MLM now even though I know that it’s still a waste of time and money to pursue the impossible dreams that only less than 1% of the MLM distributors will ever make money from it. I stcik on because it is like getting rid of drugs addiction bit by bit and this is my last straw. I highly recommend the three books that helped me get out of this destructive MLM addiction. They are ‘All That Glitters Is Not God : Breaking Free from the Sweet Deceit of Multi-Level Marketing by Athena Dean (Paperback – Jun 1998)’, ‘False Profits: Seeking Financial and Spiritual Deliverance in Multi-Level Marketing and Pyramid Schemes’ and ‘Consumed by Success: Reaching the Top and Finding God Wasn’t There (Paperback)
by Athena Dean (Author)’.

By: Tracy Coenen

Tracy Coenen — Thu, 28 Aug 2008 19:19:25 +0000

And regarding MLM being taught in universities: Another lie to make MLM seem credible. The truth is that a couple of case studies have been done on companies like Mary Kay, and those case studies are sometimes used in business classes. Students are assigned case studies in order to analyze what a company has done and critique their methods. (In Mary Kay’s case, the case study that was done illustrated how to motivate a sales force for as small a cost as possible. Mary Kay uses dollar store trinkets to get women to invest thousands of dollars. It’s brilliant.)

But no college or university actually “teaches” MLM as a recommended business model.

By: Tracy Coenen

Tracy Coenen — Thu, 28 Aug 2008 19:16:57 +0000

Jason – I called you a liar because that’s exactly what you are. The companies on your list don’t use MLM or network marketing, and you’re refusing to provide proof to back up your statements because NO PROOF EXISTS.

MLM promoters are all the same – Tell me I don’t know what I’m talking about but refuse to prove anything they say, because they can’t prove it. It’s easier for you to run away, because you can’t prove what you’re saying. People like you make false (but impressive-sounding) statements to make MLM look good. The problem? The statements are false and I have a good time exposing them!

By: Jason

Jason — Thu, 28 Aug 2008 18:44:03 +0000

First of all, I don’t know who you think you are calling me a liar or policing who can post on here. It’s obvious you are one of those people that like to attack people that disagree with you and make it personal on blogs. I didn’t say that the companies I listed were MLM companies…I said that they use MLM to grow and promote their business. I must have made all of that stuff up I just put up there. Trust me, this will be the last post that I put on here…I don’t like dealing with close-minded people who think that they have everything figured out. I bet you didn’t know that network marketing is even being taught in some universities did you?

You can do your own research before you discredit my statements. Go ahead and continue your personal crusade against MLM because its obvious you’re one of the people that failed doing it…one of the lazy drones. And if you’ve never tried, then you’re the most unreliable person in this discussion.

If you’re such an expert on this, you would have known already that the companies I listed do in fact use network marketing for their businesses…in fact, many of them have started their own subsidiary companies dedicated to that alone. You can find your own links if you want, I don’t have any more time to dedicate to this ridiculousness.

By: Tracy Coenen

Tracy Coenen — Thu, 28 Aug 2008 18:26:10 +0000

Oops. Sorry Jason. We don’t allow lying here. Try again. The only ones of those that use MLM are Mary Kay, Avon, and Primerica. And Mary Kay isn’t on the Fortune 500 list. I’ll give you one more chance to be truthful before you’re no longer welcome here.

Fortune 500 list – Which companies use MLM to sell their products. The truth this time.

And since you’re so unreliable… For each company on the Fortune 500 list that you contend uses MLM, you must provide a link to proof of your claim.

By: Jason

Jason — Thu, 28 Aug 2008 18:22:16 +0000

Its funny you should bring that up Tracy because I do have a list…

1. Sprint
2. MCI
3. AT&T
All use MLM to sell their long distance services and business packages

4. Colgate-PalmOlive
5. Gillette
6. Mary Kay
7. Avon
8. Primerica

and…oh yeah,

8. Coca-Cola
9. GoodYear
10. IBM
11. Firestone
12. General Motors

I hope you don’t think that these products are sold, marketed, and repackaged/rebilled by magic. Multi-Level Marketing is a key business tool in a lot of industries.

And there was a little department store by the name W.T. Grant that started the whole thing called “franchises” (another name for network marketing) that is responsible for the creation of places like Wal-Mart, Kmart, Target, McDonalds, Subway, GNC, Independent Car Dealerships, etc…etc…etc…