Vendor talks, Usana squawks
Usana Health Sciences (NASDAQ:USNA) had their convention last week, and as predicted, the new “energy drink” REV3 was a big hit! Those fully indoctrinated into the “cult” of Usana believe it is the greatest thing ever!
But not everyone at the convention was in the Usana fog. At least one service provider there saw right through all the hype. He commented here:
I was at USANAs convention this past weekend working [redacted]. It amazed me how many forty year old upper-lower class women who didn’t care for energy drinks had a change of heart when there beloved USANA released Rev3. USANA is not a company, but a religion. They depend on religious fanaticism to continue to sell their product. I firmly believe that i could have [put just about anything] in a cup labeled USANA and I could have sold it for 30 bucks.
That comment was left late Monday night, and by Tuesday, Usana was already on the phone to the service provider, complaining about the comment. So now everyone’s in an uproar because an “outsider” who was at the event tells it like it is.
This is typical from multi-level marketing companies: Silence any critics.
I’m used to being referred to as mean, or negative, or biased, or any of a number of bad-sounding words. It’s just that I refuse to buy into the hype of MLM when I know THE TRUTH. I know the numbers. I know the facts behind these plans. I know the results achieved by people who have worked years at these schemes. I’m not going to be swayed by those who call me ignorant. I will stand firm in my belief that the facts are far more compelling than some warm fuzzies you get at a rah-rah convention put on by an MLM.
Tracy…
Amen to that. Same here.
yea high five Tracy! ur over it quixtar.. geez.
I actually feel bad for you. The reality of your “research” , numbers, i know this and I stand firm… deep down inside is a tainted for so many different items for publishing, mlm, internet advertising, stocks, commercial and residential real estate, healthcare etc.
studies that you discuss can be swayed to prove any point you wish. The fact is any type of commerece in the U.S. can be critqued and analyzed… we are trillons in debt as a country! the fact that you CHOOSE to select MLM as your “flavor” is funny because if you dont notice that the people you are arguing with see that there is good being done in thier lives and the lives of those you come into contact with. So your discussion of facts numbers etc. etc. are just your own aspect of self-fulfillment for this discussion. I mean you created a website dedicated to it. you kind of have to ya know? you got tons of pride and I cant imagine you doing anthing else but to stand firm.
however would you take into consideration that the SEC thought of all this as well? and there is a reason that they cleared USANA of anything. they ran the bases and came home….your still on first base or havent gotten out of the batters box.
your drawing attention and making enemies for what cause ?
i object to the fact that you were successful in MLM. you may have been involved yes but not successful… ill be the first to admit that MLM is not perfect … but what is? seriously before spatting out a impanted response …. what is fair?
then think to yourself maybe…. if nothing is absolutley perfectly fair… then what does more good than hurt? and before spatting out again… think that maybe those of you that you are badgering feel and know the difference and good it has made it peoples lives. awwwww heartwarming i know, but realize that your not helping the cause… the cause is to dialougue and try and understand each other. communication is the key and your horrible at it. … and thats ok too, but dont act like you are being productive as opposed to being destructive to yourself, your plight and ultimately to those that are just another human being trying to make it by helping others…. (because in deep down inside, i dont know if your trying to help, to hurt, to sell more books?) …. all i get from you is that you are speaking to hear yourself talk and you are impressing yourself.
excuse the typos. i didnt exactly set aside time.
Here I go spatting again… Stan, I’m not sure if you meant to make a point with all that or not. I have facts. You have feelings. Good luck with that. If someone has to flush thousands of dollars down the toilet that is MLM to feel good about themselves, so be it.
As for me, I’ll keep discussing the facts. If I can save just one life from the clutches of MLM…
Associates and pc’s; don’t waste time here. We’re giving her too much reader time, and she’s obviously set in her ways. Her entire website is based on finding the negative, and as associates we develop better, stronger and more productive lives.
When you throw dirt, you lose ground.
And trust me, even she’s not worth throwing.
How’s that lead you’re ingesting doing for ya? Sounds healthy to me!
Tracy says: “How’s that lead you’re ingesting doing for ya?” Sounds healthy to me!”
Hows that Donut you ingesting every morning doing for ya? Sounds pretty healthy to me as well.
It seems to be doing alot for you and your ankles. Thanks for utilizing just a headshot to promote yourself and your $39 book (30 if you get it from amazon right now).
What do you know about staying healthy? Are offended by a leading Health Science company because it some how insults your own lifestyle? Again, I’m trying to get to the root of your plight… im getting close.
if your going to be self-righteous & prideful, stick to your forte, and it probably isnt anything to do with health.
Describing Usana as a “leading health science company” is hilarious. I doubt any reputable company in the industry thinks that Usana is “leading.”
Tracy, shame on you!
Did you not know that every single MLM health-science company around is a market leading one ? I mean, it’s common sense. You needn’t even doubt it.
And stop bashing USANA promoters. They know the thruth in their hearts. They feel it (or at least they drink it). That’s pretty solid evidence. Better than numbers and figues…
Best Regards
Usana Sucks!
Tracy say so!
The SEC (U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission)and FTC (Federal Trade Commission) both gave USANA the green light as being a legitimate business. That’s proof, for it does not have to come in the form of figures.
Just because a high quality product is distributed through network marketing or direct sales does not mean it is not a good product. The reason why USANA’s products are distributed through a network marketing system is to keep the cost of the product competitive with all the subpar products on store shelves today.
What am I talking about? Consider a can of soda. It would normally cost about ten cents to actually make the finished product. By the time the product gets to you Tracy/Quixtarisacult, you pay about a dollar if not more. What happened there? I’ll tell you, there is a mark up. From the manufacturing facilty to you the consumer, it first has to go through a national distributer (they mark it up), regional distributor (they mark it up more), local distributor (mark up again), advertisement costs (a celebrity promotes the soda on tv), and lastly a retail mark up from the local grocery store. USANA’s products would cost way too much if they did it through the traditional system of distribution. By going through a network marketing system, you can bypass the middleman, and keep the price of the product relatively low.
Are the products still too expensive? It’s not too expensive, you just might not be able to afford them. Just because something is expensive does not mean it is a scam. Have you ever heard the phrase, you get what you pay for? That’s exactly what it is with USANA’s products, quality. Louis Vuitton charges over $600 for a pair of leather shoes. Is it a scam? Be careful before you’re so quick to respond to this question.
If you’re questioning or doubting the quality of the products, let me try to clarify. The products are high quality. In order to be in the PDR (Physician’s Desk Reference), you must meet USP (United States Pharmacoepia), be Pharmaceutical grade which is higer than FDA (Food and Drug Administration) standards, and adheres to GMP (Good Manufacturing Practices). USANA’s products are NSF certified as well. The stuff you mention being equal to USANA that you can buy at Target does not have any of that credibility.
Vitamins are not all the same. That is like saying Porsche is the same as Kia. Yes, they are both cars, as Porsche and Kia are both cars. But the reason why Porsche charges $100,000+ for their 911 Turbo (I own one) is because of the quality. Kia will charge about $20,000 for their nicer car model. Yes, both Kia and Porsche have doors, tires, wheels, engines, windows, seats, a/c, steering wheels, trunk/boot, transmission, etc. but it does not mean they are the same. The quality, performance, feel, comfort, etc. is the difference. QUALITY. It is very true with vitamin supplements as well. They may contain the same types of ingredients but they may not be made correctly in the right form and balance. I’ll give you a little bit of information to help you better understand what I am talking about.
SHOW ME THE SCIENCE: Criteria to consider in judging the quality of a supplement:
1. COMPLETENESS – Does the product contain the full spectrum of nutrients and nutrient categories lised in the Blended Standard and considered essential for optimal health? To qualify, a nutrient or nutrient category must be present at a dosage that is at least 20% of the value in the Blended Standard.
2. POTENCY – For each nutrient in the product, what is the level of potency relative to the potency for that nutrient in the Blended Standard?
3. MINERAL FORMS – For those minerals included in a formulation, how many are found in their most bioavailable forms as amino-acid chelates or organic-acid complexes?
4. BIOACTIVITY OF VITAMIN E – Does the product contain the natural (d) isomer of alpha tocopherol or does the product contain the synthetic (d/l) isomers of alpha tocopherol?
5. GAMMA TOCOPHEROL – Does the product contain gamma tocopherol at a potency of up to one-half the potency of alpha tocopherol in the same product?
6. ANTIOXIDAT SUPPORT – Does the produc contain vitamin C, vitamin E (including alpha tocopherol and gamma tocopherol, or mixed tocopherols), vitamin A, beta-carotene, alpha-lipoic acid, lycopene, coenzyme Q10, and selenium at potencies up to 100% of the potencies for these nutrients in the Blended Standard?
7. BONE HEALTH – Does the product contain vitamin D, vitamin K, vitamin C, vitamin B6, vitamin B12, folic acid, boron, calcium, magnesium, silicon, and zinc at potencies up to 100% of the potencies for these nutrients in the Blended Standard?
8. HEARTH HEALTH – Does the product contain vitamin E, beta-carotene, coenzyme Q10, calcium, magnesium, l-carnitine or acetyl-l-carnitine, procyanidolic oligomers (PCOs), phenolic compounds, and lycopene at potencies up to 100% of the potencies in the blended standard?
9. LIVER HEALTH (DETOXIFICATION) – Does the produt contain vitamin C, n-acetyl-csteine, selenium, vitamin B2, and vitamin B3, at potencies of 100% in Blended Standard?
10. METABOLIC HEALTH
11. OCULAR HEALTH
12. METHYLATION SUPPORT
13. LIPOTROPIC FACTORS
14. INFLAMMATION CONTROL
15. GLYCATION CONTROL
16. BIOFLAVANOID PROFILE
17. PHEOLIC COMPOUNDS PROFILE
18. POTENTIAL TOXICITIES
I would elaborate on all of them but I don’t think you would spend the time and do your due diligence in understanding them. One must not be ignorant and one sided when making a debate. This is fact, not emotion.
Let’s clear up all the misconceptions in Bryant’s blathering about Usana.
1. The SEC and FTC DID NOT “give Usana the green light as being a legitimate business.” The SEC and FTC have decided not to formally investigate Usana. That’s very, very different from giving them a thumbs up. They have not endorsed Usana in any way.
2. The cost of the Usana products is nowhere near “competitive,” so your assertion that they use MLM to distribute the products to keep costs down is false.
3. The “bypass the middleman” argument is completely false. In MLM, the companies are ADDING MANY MIDDLEMEN to the process with the pyramid recruiting. There may be 8 or 10 middlemen in an MLM, while a product bought at Target probably has 2 or 3 at the very most.
4. A higher priced vitamin is not necessarily better, so you don’t really get what you pay for. Usana tries to position itself as higher quality, but there is no objective evidence to support that claim. The PDR and organizations you’ve cited don’t prove that Usana is any better than any other vitamin. Show me a double-blind study reported in a legitimate medical journal that proves Usana vitamins are of higher quality. There is no such study, so your claim that Usana is of higher quality than the average vitamin out there is false.
5. You’ve listed all sorts of “criteria” for judging a vitamin, but haven’t provided any objective evidence that proves Usana is any better than other vitamins out there. And I’m not talking about propaganda promoted or paid for by Usana or its distributors. I’m talking completely unrelated, objective, credible third-party analysis of the product.
Bryant – Like other commenters here, I’m going to invite you to provide proof for your claims, or to quit making the bogus claims.
Tracy,
1. The FTC and SEC’s job is to MAKE SURE illegitimate companies get shut down. If there was any doubt of USANA being a BAD company, they would formally investigate USANA. Are you saying that the FTC and SEC are not doing their job?
2. & 3. Nowhere near competitive? Compared to what? Our products would cost a couple hundred dollars to distribute through traditonal marketing. So yes, USANA’s products are still a more expensive, but I think they are pretty well priced compared to how much they would cost if done through traditional distribution. I rather take a product like USANA that Olympic athletes trust their performance, career, and health to rather than some brand from the grocery store/Target that doesn’t disintegrate properly, isn’t balanced, doesn’t have the potency, isn’t bioavailable (and if it is, the levels of toxicities are unhealthy).
4. If USANA wasn’t higher quality, why are they the only company able to back up it’s potencty, purity, safety, and efficacy with a Million Dollar Athlete guarantee? I challenge you to find one nutritional supplement company out there other than USANA that can guarantee their products to be free from substances that can ban/disqualify an athlete from their sport. Why was USANA chosen as the official health supplement supplier for numerous atheletic organizations, including the Sony ericsson WTA Tour (Women’s Professional Tennis)? Why didn’t they pick a company like One A Day or Centrum? 90% of all vitamin companies in the United States are based in the state of Utah, just like USANA. With that in mind, why was USANA awarded the Utah Best Of State award for Best Dietary Supplement for numerous years up to now? I think there is quite a lot of competition in that sector Tracy. The PDR is a very credible source of medical literature. Any medication or prescriptions you were ever given came from that PDR.
5. What’s with this double-blind study term you keep using as if you know what it really is? Does everything that holds true have to have gone through a double-blind study? No, so stop trying to act all intelligent and sound like you know what you’re talking about when everyone that stumbles onto this sad website will see that you don’t. All USANA products go through a double-blind study before the finished product is marketed. Why don’t you compare the labels of USANA’s products with other vitamin companies out there. You can see the difference. All the “criteria” I mentioned in the previous post are what makes USANA better than most other companies out there. We are made right.
IN SUMMARY…
-Groundbreaking nutrional research– USANA invests significant time and money in extensive scientific operations, information systems, research services, worldwide scientific alliances, and technical suppport. USANA experts are at the forefront of nutritional science.
-First-class ingredients– USANA’s unique ingredient formulas are based on sound, scientifcally proven, and clinically tested ingredients.
-Guaranteed potency–USANA guarantees the potency of its products. Most of USANA’s nutrient formulations are manufactured in-house, following stringent analytical and quality control procedures. USANA verifies each production batch so that what you read on a product label is what you’ll receive in the product.
-High-quality manufacturing– USANA’s manufacturing facility complies with pharmaceutical-level Good Manufacturing Practices (GMP). A variety of government agencies conduct periodic inspections, requiring strict control of procedures and documentation.
-Confidence of top athletes – USANA’s Good Manufacturing Practices ensure the safety and quality of each product–products that have been proven so safe, effective, and free of contaminants that renowned organizations such as U.S. Speedskating, Speed Skating Canada, Biathlon Canada, the elite athletes of the Sony Ericsson WTA Tour, and a myriad of other professional athletes worldwide, trust their health to USANA.
I have time to waste on this site because USANA has created great residual income for me and my friends. The health of my family and friends is better than ever since USANA came into my life. And if only the people at the top make the good money, I guess I’m 13 years late? I joined USANA September 2005. USANA has been around since 1992. I guess you can say I got lucky? No, because I took the time to learn what was necessary to sell a good health product. I had to personally develop myself, and my mindset to be self motivated, driven. I had to take the time to learn how to sell, communicate, train, duplicate, and market USANA and myself. Was it easy, of course not. But anything worthwhile is challenging. Nike doesn’t pay Tiger Woods millions of dollars to wear their gear if Tiger Woods didn’t have to work his guts out. The truth is, all business has risks, all business has failure. Most people don’t succeed in most things. The ones that do, stuck with it and learned what was necessary. You’re sayin 99% (which isn’t true) of all network marketers fail and only 1% make money. Well let’s put that in perspective. 92% of all small business’ fail within the first few years of openning (SBA – Small Business Administration). So I guess we should give up and not even think about openning a restaurant then huh? If we don’t have aspirations, goals, and dreams, then where do you think the U.S. would be right now? We wouldn’t have Michael Jordan, Lance Armstrong, Abraham Lincoln, Walt Disney, Thomas Edison, Benajamin Franklin, Martin Luther King, etc.
Food for thought.
Bryant – This will be your second and final warning. We do not allow false, unsubstantiated claims by MLM supporters here. I’m posting your comments this time with responses, but if you break the rules again, your comments won’t be posted.
1. Yes, I’m saying the FTC and SEC do not do their jobs. The FTC has flat-out refused to enforce the laws that apply to MLMs for the last 20 years or so. The SEC simply doesn’t have enough staff to investigate everything it should investigate. So again, the inaction of these two agencies is NOT some sort of endorsement of Usana.
2. Where is the support for your claim that the products would cost “a couple hundred dollars” to distribute thru normal retail chains? You have no support. In fact, the MLM method of distribution is far more expensive than traditional methods. How do I know? Simple. A comparison of products and prices:
Usana Health Pack 100 – $4.25 daily cost at WHOLESALE pricing
Animal Pack – $0.84 daily cost at RETAIL pricing
An independent lab verified that these are comparable products in terms of ingredients. Usana is over 300% more expensive, even when comparing Usana’s cheaper wholesale pricing to Animal Pack’s retail pricing.
Usana Chelated Minerals – $0.27 daily cost at WHOLESALE pricing
Now Full Spectrum Mineral Caps – $0.13 daily cost at RETAIL pricing
Usana is twice as much at wholesale than Now at retail. And again, an independent lab determined that the products are comparable.
Why the difference? The multiple layers of commission that must be paid from that wholesale pricing.
You claim that products at Target aren’t as good as Usana. Prove it with independent data. I’ve got independent data that says the products are comparable.
4. The Million Dollar Athlete guarantee – Sadly, this doesn’t prove anything about Usana’s products. It is simply a marketing tactic. You have no proof that other products couldn’t offer a similar guarantee if they wanted to. Again, provide me some independent proof.
You cite the PDR as “a very credible source of medical literature.” Really? Then why don’t you explain to me what the PDR proves. It doesn’t prove that Usana is of any better quality than any other vitamin. If claim that it does prove that, I challenge you to provide support for that claim. (Again, Usana propaganda doesn’t count.)
5. Double-blind studies – These are done in the medical community to prove or disprove hypotheses about medications, illnesses, and the like. Studies like this could give credibility to the Usana “quality” claim. They’re the most reliable third-party verification of the claims you’re making. I challenge you to produce any sort of objective third party data in support of your claims.
You say: “All USANA products go through a double-blind study before the finished product is marketed.”
Really? Prove it. You have no idea what you’re talking about.
You also claim that Usana spends significant money on R&D. That’s flat out untrue. The company spends less than 2% of its budget on R&D, which is pathetic for a company that claims to be so cutting-edge.
As for my claim that 99% of people invovle in MLM lose money… I suggest you take a look at this report. It lays out the methodology and uses data supplied by the MLMs themselves to calculate this figure.
http://pyramidschemealert.org/PSAMain/news/MythofIncomeReport.html
You cite a figure of 92% of all small businesses failing in the first few years. Prove it. Provide a link to this statistic. (You can’t, because it’s an untrue number.)
I’ll again invite you to provide objective, third-party proof of your claims made here. If you can’t provide support for your claims, don’t bother to reply again because no one will see your comments.
The PSA and FDI are all a joke of authorities. Where is their credibility? Barry Minkow? HAHA! Robert Fitzpatrick? Please… hahahaha, those guys are garbage. If their research was so good with independent lab studies, then why didn’t they succeed against their lawsuit against USANA? The judge does the judging, not you, Minkow, Fitzpatrick, or any of the other guys that failed at MLM and created the PSA. I dont’ care if you don’t post this, You’re a joke. You have no credibility and other people can see it. You’re using data that is skewed and biased made from Barry Minkow and his associates. That data is wrong, like you. I’m no longer posting on here anyway, you’re wasting my time.
LOL – Barry didn’t have a lawsuit against Usana. You can’t even get facts straight.
Skewed data? Are you suggesting that the independent lab who tested the vitamins is lying?
Skewed data? Are you suggesting that Usana is providing false data on its site?
I will again invite you (is this the 3rd time or 4th?) to provide verifiable, objective support for any or all of your claims made here. Zero and counting for proof provided by you.
Yes I am saying that the independent lab who tested the vitamins is lying. How do I know? because the lab supposedly tested for an ingredient/substance in the USANA products which is impossible since the lab did not have the equipment to test for that particular substance.
No more posting from me. You’re bad for people’s health.
Really? Awesome. What is this piece of equipment the lab doesn’t have? And where is the proof that they don’t have it?
Somebody is getting grumpy because he can’t provide proof for any of his claims!
http://www.sba.gov/smallbusinessplanner/plan/getready/SERV_SBPLANNER_ISENTFORU.html
As for the lab, Barry Minkow claimed the USANA TenX bar only had 2.6 times the antioxidant power of grape juice when he knew he wasn’t comparing equal amounts of the product? Why did he claim the Health Pak 100™ contained no N-Acetyle L-Cysteine when the lab’s test wasn’t designed to detect this ingredient?
What a credible lab…
Commendable effort, but you have failed.
The 2.6 calculation was based upon a serving to serving comparison of the products. Usana’s description with their original claim is what prompted the serving to serving comparison.
Barry had no idea that some other measure was being used by Usana, and never made the claim again after Usana clarified its measures. However, Barry and team did later criticize Usana’s measure because it was a silly measure.
Barry reported exactly what the lab reported to him: None detected. This may have been a mistake on the part of the lab, but it was an honest mistake that no one tried to cover and that Barry reported in good faith. In addition, the presence or absence of this ingredient was completely irrelevant to the report that was issued on the Usana fraud.
Thanks for the page from the SBA, which proves your earlier assertion to be false, as I stated. The page states: “According to the U.S. Small Business Administration, roughly 50% of small businesses fail within the first five years.”
This is obviously a far, far cry from your false statement that 92% of small businesses fail in the first few years.
I’ll invite you again to provide evidence that supports any of the claims that you’ve made here. Shooting you down each time you post something is getting a little tiring, though.
Hi everyone, Tracy Coenen you are right on the money. I view Amyway etc as nothing more than a scam, right up there with scientology.
I am not involved with USANA and have had experience in two MLM’s and haven’t pursued it seriously. I have common sense enough to know that those who are doing well with MLM’s worked hard as It is their lively hood.
They have to take on their business just as seriously as a car lot owner of a particular brand of car. You must know your product inside and out, and it is part of your life to sell that product to make money, not a cult.
I think when one studies the statistics on the fact that MLM world wide is in the billions and growing, then there is no argument that MLM works.
I just find that there are several authors on a subject of what they post on the Internet, which is full of sites that are biased and very few that tell the truth.
The three authors are
1. Ones that tried something and it didn’t work for them.
2. Ones that parrot what didn’t work for others.
3. Ones that actually succeeded at the subject they talk about.
I really see this for what this argument is all about, but MLM is here to stay and there is nothing you can do about it but complain.
MLM isn’t still around because it “works” for the distributors. It’s still around because companies have mastered the way they market to distributors… throwing them enough bones to get them to keep signing up and purchasing products they will never sell. The companies themselves are successful. 99% of the distributors are not.
The proof that you seek is in the history of the man who created Usana.
You only need to look at what Dr.Wentz has accomplished, in his years
at Gull labs. Those are the most telling of all.
With his indepth knowledge of human cell cultures, he was able to
create over 30 viral diagnostic assays.
That is only a tip of the iceberg to what this man has achieved!
So you don’t have to look very far for your proof.
Besides, I wouldn’t want any other review other than one from Usana!
I have been on Usana nutritionals for three years now, and I have to say ” I feel the truth!” I am my own third party review!!!!
thanks and have a great day. Oh and remember, you too can review the products, and decide for yourself…
Jason – Is there any independent academic organization that has endorsed or praised his work? As far as I know, it’s all snake oil and no one with any sort of good reputation in the medical field thinks Dr. Wentz is so fabulous. But I’d be happy to be corrected. Tell us who, give us the details, give us some links to information that can be verified… and most importantly, make sure these people you cite are independent and reputable.
Tracy, Dr.Wentz recieved the Albert Einstein Award in june of ‘07.
Usanas’ products are independently tested by Informed Choice.
The Linus Pauling Institute has partnered with Usana.
The Children’s Hunger Fund and Usana have a wonderful partnership,
which helps hundreds of thousands of needy and starving children
get the nutrition that Dr.Wentz truly knows about.
You can believe the myth about snake oil and will probably never
believe the truth as you are hearing it.
But like I said before, you can be your own judge, by trying
the products yourself, I will even share some with you if you
would like to try Usanas’ world class nutritionals.
You said you’d be happy to be proven wrong, well I hope your’e
Happy!
Excellent effort Jason, but none of those things you cited is an independent, credible source.
1. Albert Einstein Award – This “award” was essentially purchased by Wentz.
2. Informed Choice – This organization has absolutely nothing to do with Wentz’s “accomplishments.” This organization simply tests products for banned substances.
3. Linus Pauling Institute – This is an organization to which Usana and Wentz donate money. The organization does research. There is no endorsement of Usana or any sort of verification or Wentz’s work or contributions to the medical community.
4. Childrens Hunger Fund – While this one sounds good, it means nothing. Wentz donates money to them. They don’t represent any sort of endorsement of him or his work.
Please try again to cite an independent, reputable person or organization that vouches for Wentz.
And why may I ask do I need to cite anyone that vouches for my Hero?
I vouch for him!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If there is no one out there testing and verifying what Dr.Wentz
is claiming, then that is your bad for not making that happen!
Let me tell you something, we see through what people like you
are trying to do to something really wonderful!
My mother is 76 years old, and has been on Usana Nutritionals almost
three years now, And She Loves Her USANA!!!!!!
Let me tell you why; Because when you give your cells the nutrients
they need, and in turn become aware of what is toxic to you,
and eliminate those toxins from your daily life, you will have
decreased your toxic burden.
Every cell has it’s own repair rate, that is dictated by it’s toxic
burden, you see when the toxic burden on the cell is greater than
the repair rate, you have degeneration and disease.
But when you eliminate the toxins and nutrient your cells,
you flip things around, when the repair rate is greater that the
toxicity rate you have HEALING!!
I have been following this Dr.s’ advice and doing everything he
recommends, from proper nutrition, to getting the Mercury fillings out and what do you know?!
I along with thousands of others are feeling the healing!
So you can bash my Usana all day long,
But the song will remain the same, Usana’s here to stay!!!!!!!!!!
Because people like me know the truth!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Try the product and feel the truth!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Oh and guess whaaaat? I am now building a great residual income,
Thanks to Usana!!! I too was skeptical, but what did I have too lose
by checking it out? I now have everything I need in this life!!
Because when you have your health baby, you got it all!!!!!!!!!!!!!
So believe how ever you want, it’s you that’s missing out!! bye……..
Jason – You’re the one who came here and claimed that Wentz is well respected for his work in the medical field. I’ve simply asked you to back up that claim with anything independent and verifiable. You can’t cite even ONE independent source that supports your claim. You can’t do it because Wentz is not respected by independent medical professionals. He pushes snake oil, pure and simple.
USANA does not sell a quality product. Their attempts at persuading people otherwise only capture those who don’t know how to follow through a proper evaluation of the sources. Everything from this company absolutely REAKS of scam. I’ve looked into claims about USANA time and time again and nothing has ever, EVER demonstrated that their products are better than the competition. The only scientific report I found while combing through message boards, web-pages and books showed that USANA passed the test on dissolution, but this was matched by brands such as Centrum. The study went on to state that USANA has meaningless ambiguous statements on their labels to entice the consumer to buy them by giving the false appearance of greater quality. If you followed the USANA vs. Minkow lawsuit – which was horribly embarrassing for USANA btw – you’d know that USANA failed twice to prove to the courts that they had a product with superior quality to less expensive brands. This finding was repeated in a Canadian Broadcast Corporation show La Facture which investigated a group of Distributors in Quebec who were making illegal claims about USANAs products. An examination of USANAs products by an independent lab yielded the results that the products are much too expensive. Offering what consumers could get in store at 1/2 to 1/3 of the price of USANAs cost and USANAs products demonstrated no greater quality. If you want to read more about how USANA is a scam I posted a web-site at YouTube where a poster has been adding videos which examine USANAs products claims and how they are false or meant to confuse the consumer.
Whatever,I came on here to do some research, and noticed the response
about the so called cult like behavior at convention.
And I thought maybe I could add a little insight as to why that
person thought this. But I see you people are haters and that’s all
there is to it. I don’t need any third party verification!
I feel the truth, and baby it ain’t what your saying!!!
If snake oil makes me feel this good, then baby give me some more!!
Dr. Myron Wentz is my Hero! And I am moved by his passion to help
others. And I will do everything in my power to help him spread the
news about TRUE HEALTH! Because You have some sick agenda against
MLM companies, you think you can pick on USANA.
Let me tell you again, USANA is here to stay! Have a wonderful day.
All the Hospitals around the world are using Dr.Wentz’s viral diagnostic
assays. Usana products are of pharmaceutical quality, so that right
there makes them of higher quality than the vitamins in the stores.
And as for the snake oil, it would be listed on the label if it’s
in the bottle! If a multi-vitamin doesn’t have the right nutrients,
at the right levels, it just won’t work!
I’ll say it again take the challenge and try the products…
If you people really want to bring down this so called fraud, then why
aren’t you having these products evaluated and exposed?
Becasue you can’t! The truth is the truth and you can never change that!
I have tried alot of different vitamins, and nothing even comes close
to what Usana has to offer!!So there I said it!
There are alot more good things being said about Usana than negative,
and I feel the truth from the cell up! Good Day!
Jason, If you believe USANAs line about manufacturing to pharmaceutical quality then you have to also believe that Centrum is also manufactured to the same quality and it is available in stores. That is just one example. Tracy’s comment about “snake oil” isn’t to be taken literally. USANA has been challenged by the courts and independent testing and has been determined to be no better than cheaper products available for purchase in stores.
Ray, Centrum is one of the worst vitamins you could take!
No I don’t believe that Centrum is of pharmaceutical quality,
they don’t make that claim…The comparitive guide to nutrtionals,
gives Centrum a very low rating!
Like i said before, I feel the truth in the words from the man
through the products that I take everyday!!!
You people will just cry about it when it comes your turn to die
from degenerative disease, just like your’e crying about this
wonderful multi-billion dollar MLM company!
I believe everything Dr. Wentz says, His products have saved my life!
When he says, ” The Usana family will be the healthiest family on earth.” You can bet your ignorance I believe!!!
See ya!
Ray, Usana does sell a quality product, three billion dollars worth!
Must be something to them….
Jason, I’m having trouble posting my response right now but believe me I do have one.
Jason, Alright that seemed to work. You say that Centrum is one of the worst vitamins you can take but based on what USANA says Centrum must be pharmaceutical quality. USANA uses the TGA to back up their pharmaceutical quality claims because USANA hasn’t been gone over by the FDA for pharmaceutical quality. USANA says the TGA requirements and the FDA requirements are identical. If you believe that to be true than any company which has met TGA requirements must also meet FDA requirements for pharmaceutical quality. Centrum meets TGA requirements so if we trust what USANA says then Centrum must be pharmaceutical quality as well.
You’ve also brought up the comparative guide to nutritionals. Explain to me why you believe it to be a good source of nutritional information.
Jason, Forgot to mention. The amount of sales USANA has seen doesn’t mean they have a quality product. I’d would think that Centrum has probably seen greater sales than USANA over the same time period.
Don’t worry I’m not a Centrum rep
First of all the FDA doesn’t evaluate or approve any vitamins.
and second you don’t assume that Centrum is pharmaceutical grade.
Usana makes the claim, Centrum doesn’t.
I use to take Centrum and they don’t compare to Usana!
The comparative guide to nutritionals rates Usana #1!
I feel the Usana Difference!
Look If you would like we could take a tour of Usana’s manufacturing
facility and you can see for yourself, step by step how Usana makes
the finest nutritionals in the world! I can set it up!
Not many other vitamin companies will do that! So what do you say?
What could your beef be with DR.Wentz? I wonder?
Jason, Okay let me explain this again. I am aware that the FDA does not approve of any vitamins but within the United States they are the ones who decide if something is pharmaceutical quality. USANA tries to prove they manufacture to pharmaceutical quality by saying that TGA requirements and FDA requirements are identical and since that they’ve been approved by the TGA. That would mean that all products approved by the TGA are pharmaceutical quality which would include Centrum. I’m not saying Centrum is pharmaceutical grade I’m saying that based on what USANA says it is. Do you understand me?
I know the comparative guide to nutritionals gives USANA a high rating. I’m asking you what about the comparative guide to nutritionals makes it a resource we can trust.
I’m certain I would be impressed by USANAs manufacturing facility but I believe I would also be impressed with any other supplement manufacturer as well. I don’t believe USANA is any different in this instance.
I have no “beef” with Wentz. Why would you imply such a thing?
You are definitely not on Usana’s side!
Anyways, The truth is in the history.. His success at Gull labs.,
is what proves his claims about cellular nutrition!
If you can’t get that through your head, then good luck!
All of the hospitals around the world use the diagnostic technology that Dr.Wentz developed! If you would come to the Usana facility
you can learn all about how they grew billions of cells so that
they could learn how to detect viruses. Gull labs. succeeded where
the pharmaceutical companies had failed for years.
Dr. Wentz was the first person to successfully grow human cells!
You see they weren’t able to grow viruses in a chemical medium,
like that which was done with bacterial diseases..
They needed fully competent healthy human cells to grow their viruses.
And the rest is history, whether you believe it or not won’t matter!
Usana will survive!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
later..
ALL the hospitals around the world? Oh goody. Why don’t you try to prove that one to it. Tell us what the technology is, link us to authoritative documents which prove Wentz invented it, and then link us to independent documents which prove all the hospitals in the world use it.
Gull Laboratories Inc., developes, manufactures and markets medical
diagnostic test kits designed to detect infections caused by certain
microbial agents such as viruses, bacteria or protozoa and to detect
autoimmune disorders. The companies products are used by private
laboratories and hospital clinical laboratories world wide.
Dr.Wentz founded this company and succeeded where the big shot
pharmaceutical companies failed. Dr.Wentz the first man to grow
human cells! It’s all so facinating! Tracy, why don’t you come down
to Salt Lake and see for yourself how wonderful Usana really is?!
I’d love to give you the tour! You wouldn’t be disappointed!
Anyways it’s been real fun arguing with you.later..
ps.Tracy, You can look up everything we’ve talked about, it’s all here
on the internet. I’m sure you have a search engine too..good day
Jason, Simply because I disagree with your statements about USANAs quality does not mean I have any hard feelings towards Wentz and this isn’t about taking sides. I’ve provided you with USANAs own reasoning about pharmaceutical quality and explained how their own reasoning would dictate that Centrum also manufacuters to pharmaceutical quality.
I’ll ask you again to show some sort of unbiased evidence which demonstrates USANA has a product superior to those available in stores. I’ve provided two which have concluded that USANA is over-priced and one which has concluded that USANA uses ambiguous phrases which are without meaning in order to convince people it is worth the extra cost. I expect unbiased proof which says that USANA is superior. This shouldn’t be too hard to find
I’ll also ask you again to explain why the comparative guide to nutritionals is a source we can trust.
Jason, I think the references I used were included in my post which I couldn’t get added to the blog. The two independent sources which concluded that USANA had an overpriced product were the courts during the case USANA vs. Minkow and the Canadian Broadcasting Corporations french language program La Facture. It was a University of Alberta study which stated that USANA amongst others were using meaningless phrases to confuse people into believing their products were worth the extra cost.
Ah yes, Jason, the typical ploy of those making false claims about MLMs. Make a claim, but fail to support it with any real facts or documentation, and claim I should find it myself. The real reason you don’t produce the evidence is not just because you’re lazy. It’s because the evidence doesn’t exist. Your claims are false.
Consumerlab has given Usana the thumbs up so take a hike!
You are too anti-Usana, making all your silly comments about Centrum
being of pharmaceutical grade..
Listen, so what if you can’t, or think you can’t afford Usana’s
wonderful product, you just need to get your priorities straight!
To me they are worth every penny I spend on them, because I value
my health way more than you probably do..
Dr.Wentz is and always has been telling you all the truth, you just
won’t listen to reason.
So this might be it for me, you guys are no fun anymore, your’e
like the most ignorant people out there..sorry but I can’t waste
anymore time on you losers! I have a wonderful life to lead. bye now..
No Tracy, the truth is I’m lazy, ask anyone who knows me!
That’s one of the reasons I love My homebased business, little work,
and lots of lazy time! I’m not joking!
Life is so much better now that I have a wonderful residual income,
that’s based on the truth! Go ahead try and stop Usana!
You and all you loser haters, This company has lasted 18 years on the
Truth! Why do you think we love our Usana? come on say it with me;
’cause we’re feelin’ the healin’ baby!!! Ok go to consumerlabs.com,
they are an independent third party review for ya sweet heart..
And I have to tell you that I’m losing interest here so this
might be it for me, I have nothing to gain by arguing with narrow
minds. sorry but you had it coming! bye..