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		<title>By: MonaVie - MonaVie is Embarrassed by Their Income Disclosure Statement</title>
		<link>http://www.sequenceinc.com/fraudfiles/2008/10/29/massive-monavie-distributors-losses-demonstrated-with-the-companys-own-numbers/comment-page-1/#comment-184685</link>
		<dc:creator>MonaVie - MonaVie is Embarrassed by Their Income Disclosure Statement</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 03:37:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] policy to delete it. That&#8217;s the only logical explanation. This is especially true since 99% of MonaVie distributors earn an average of $3.75 a WEEK back in 2008 (it hasn&#8217;t changed significantly since then). It&#8217;s worth keeping in mind [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] policy to delete it. That&#8217;s the only logical explanation. This is especially true since 99% of MonaVie distributors earn an average of $3.75 a WEEK back in 2008 (it hasn&#8217;t changed significantly since then). It&#8217;s worth keeping in mind [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Mona Vie: Don&#8217;t use our name in your URL, unless you&#8217;re Wikipedia (and we&#8217;re doing the editing)&#160;&#124;&#160;Sequence Inc. Fraud Files Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.sequenceinc.com/fraudfiles/2008/10/29/massive-monavie-distributors-losses-demonstrated-with-the-companys-own-numbers/comment-page-1/#comment-183952</link>
		<dc:creator>Mona Vie: Don&#8217;t use our name in your URL, unless you&#8217;re Wikipedia (and we&#8217;re doing the editing)&#160;&#124;&#160;Sequence Inc. Fraud Files Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 13:41:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] no one is making any money from the &#8220;wonderful opportunity&#8221; that Mona Vie is offering. Here&#8217;s an explanation of the statement, which clearly shows that 99% of MonaVie distributors are making $3.75 a week. What an [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] no one is making any money from the &#8220;wonderful opportunity&#8221; that Mona Vie is offering. Here&#8217;s an explanation of the statement, which clearly shows that 99% of MonaVie distributors are making $3.75 a week. What an [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Here come the MonaVie lawyers&#8230;&#160;&#124;&#160;Sequence Inc. Fraud Files Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.sequenceinc.com/fraudfiles/2008/10/29/massive-monavie-distributors-losses-demonstrated-with-the-companys-own-numbers/comment-page-1/#comment-183920</link>
		<dc:creator>Here come the MonaVie lawyers&#8230;&#160;&#124;&#160;Sequence Inc. Fraud Files Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 22:08:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] for ordinary people, the Mona Vie recruiters are conveniently leaving out one key fact: The bottom 99% of distributors receive an average of $3.75 a week in commissions. These MLM schemes work for almost no one, yet recruiting is still successful because consumers want [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] for ordinary people, the Mona Vie recruiters are conveniently leaving out one key fact: The bottom 99% of distributors receive an average of $3.75 a week in commissions. These MLM schemes work for almost no one, yet recruiting is still successful because consumers want [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Trent</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 07:29:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love the girl that said she might be diagnosed with and I quote &quot;Lou Garrets&quot; disease, hahaha, I believe she meant Lou Gehrig&#039;s disease.  Also there is no such thing as a radioactive bone scan, hahaha, that was hilarious.  Also remarkable how she shrunk half a foot within months, must be some kind of record.  Love stupid people who lie about things they do not understand!  You would think that these planted testimonials would at least be spell checked.!  Nice try Kim AbuGhazaleh.  thanx for being a complete idiot!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love the girl that said she might be diagnosed with and I quote &#8220;Lou Garrets&#8221; disease, hahaha, I believe she meant Lou Gehrig&#8217;s disease.  Also there is no such thing as a radioactive bone scan, hahaha, that was hilarious.  Also remarkable how she shrunk half a foot within months, must be some kind of record.  Love stupid people who lie about things they do not understand!  You would think that these planted testimonials would at least be spell checked.!  Nice try Kim AbuGhazaleh.  thanx for being a complete idiot!</p>
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		<title>By: ladida</title>
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		<dc:creator>ladida</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Aug 2009 05:58:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Laura-

What is wrong with these people believing that God had an impact on all the money they make? Do you think God put us on this earth to be miserable?? NO! Of course not! He wants us to be happy and free to do the things that make us happy like spend time with our family and friends. Like be able to make money and see the world that he created. You say your religious and yet you put God, Savior, and Lord in caps like it is such an outrageous claim for these people to believe that he has given them a miracle...something they never thought they could accomplish. You claim there are naive and easily influenced people who spend $100&#039;s of dollars on this product with no success...but how do you know why they weren&#039;t successful? You said you never got into Monavie to make money...so how do you know that these &quot;naive&quot; people never made a profit...you don&#039;t! Your posting is shameful. Going to confession to confess your sins to some RANDOM stranger won&#039;t help. The ONLY one who can forgive you for any sin is God himself..he&#039;s the one that sent his only son to die for YOU! Not some random priest who never gets any!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Laura-</p>
<p>What is wrong with these people believing that God had an impact on all the money they make? Do you think God put us on this earth to be miserable?? NO! Of course not! He wants us to be happy and free to do the things that make us happy like spend time with our family and friends. Like be able to make money and see the world that he created. You say your religious and yet you put God, Savior, and Lord in caps like it is such an outrageous claim for these people to believe that he has given them a miracle&#8230;something they never thought they could accomplish. You claim there are naive and easily influenced people who spend $100&#8217;s of dollars on this product with no success&#8230;but how do you know why they weren&#8217;t successful? You said you never got into Monavie to make money&#8230;so how do you know that these &#8220;naive&#8221; people never made a profit&#8230;you don&#8217;t! Your posting is shameful. Going to confession to confess your sins to some RANDOM stranger won&#8217;t help. The ONLY one who can forgive you for any sin is God himself..he&#8217;s the one that sent his only son to die for YOU! Not some random priest who never gets any!</p>
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		<title>By: laura</title>
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		<dc:creator>laura</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 03:20:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i initally bought this product in belief that the benefits would out-weigh the cost, that is, after i had reason to even listen to the first sales pitch.  i was not interested in becoming a distributor, for i entered into this for a completely different and non-related reason.  i wont say monavie is a bad product, for how can it be, it is simply juices.  what i can say, is that the promotion of this product is unbelievable.  i went to one of the conventions, again for non-related personal reasons, which actually makes me non-judgemental in the beginning.  

i sat through the beginning of the convention, listening to the background and research of the product.  very little time was spent on reviewing what normally would be the main topic- research.  research to include the benefits, medical testimony, development of the product, etc.  

instead multiple groups of people, testified on how much money they had made and how much their life had changed. some even quit their jobs in this hard ecomony, believing that this was the way.  as they continued, they began to constantly use the word GOD, LORD, SAVIOR, etc  all in the effort to promote this product.  before i knew it, i was sitting in this cult-like atmosphere, waiting for the Davidian-like people to all testify in GOD&#039;S name.   i couldnt believe how many people appeared to be brain washed to become distributors.  

monavie claims continued as so-called family members took the stand.  i began losing recognition as to where i even was. they began speaking of everything from their husband&#039;s dying to their children drowning in pools.  as it went on, some of the high-ranking distributors began speaking.  oh, they also anounced to shut down cell phones as though i should lose contact with the outside world. 

i actually became worried for these people sitting around me.  sad, lonely, dependent people, needing this so-called family.  i couldnt believe they actually fell for this.  i stayed listening to this, not for the product, for i had forgotten that, but for the interest in how these people could be sold into this, for a family. many of the surrounding people were disabled, old, lonely, many recently divorced as they had mentioned throughout the convention.  

they actually believed in this family.  GOD&#039;S name continued to be mentioned as this went on.  i am a fairly religious person, however a normal one,  and became offended as they talked about owning planes, high dollar cars and houses in the name of THE LORD.  all this as the surrounding people i spoke to earlier, were hit by this failing ecomony and were praising this product, which they were putting their last dollar into.  it was though they were trying to buy a family and buy friends. maybe they could buy them.  as i listened to people around me, making plans to go out when they just met.  like a singles group that just rented a convention center.   

i have seen a cult which i even got out with video, as this was a top project in college. this convention was little different than that cult.  

i left feeling as though i should have taken the stand, telling these people what they were really buying into.  how they could really find people who cared and how they could begin to get rid of their dependent behavior and it wasnt through this.   i felt so bad for some of them, knowing when they realized the truth, how hurt and financially broke they could become.  

this convention went so overtime as the last speaker, the high-ranking guy with a plane, went on to talk about all topics of the BIBLE and then linking in to monavie and his plane, house, vacations, etc and how this product &quot;backed by JESUS&quot; could change everyone&#039;s life, AND THESE PEOPLE BOUGHT INTO THIS!  i felt like i needed to go to confession, as though i sat through something wrong.

when i left, i really thought i was leaving a holy-roller cult.  i had such a headache, yet stayed till the end and was in shock of what i had just heard.  this alone, made me stop buying monavie.  the product didnt make me stop, but what appeared as a false prophet did.  

so, how can i believe in this, when these distributors are representing this product this way.  simple, I CANT!   

as for the only reason i entered into this, that is no longer. which i can say, i do miss sometimes.  


know this is only my opinion,  this is my view of what i witnessed.  monavie the product itself, might be a good product, for i didnt give it much time for any research or documented benefit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i initally bought this product in belief that the benefits would out-weigh the cost, that is, after i had reason to even listen to the first sales pitch.  i was not interested in becoming a distributor, for i entered into this for a completely different and non-related reason.  i wont say monavie is a bad product, for how can it be, it is simply juices.  what i can say, is that the promotion of this product is unbelievable.  i went to one of the conventions, again for non-related personal reasons, which actually makes me non-judgemental in the beginning.  </p>
<p>i sat through the beginning of the convention, listening to the background and research of the product.  very little time was spent on reviewing what normally would be the main topic- research.  research to include the benefits, medical testimony, development of the product, etc.  </p>
<p>instead multiple groups of people, testified on how much money they had made and how much their life had changed. some even quit their jobs in this hard ecomony, believing that this was the way.  as they continued, they began to constantly use the word GOD, LORD, SAVIOR, etc  all in the effort to promote this product.  before i knew it, i was sitting in this cult-like atmosphere, waiting for the Davidian-like people to all testify in GOD&#8217;S name.   i couldnt believe how many people appeared to be brain washed to become distributors.  </p>
<p>monavie claims continued as so-called family members took the stand.  i began losing recognition as to where i even was. they began speaking of everything from their husband&#8217;s dying to their children drowning in pools.  as it went on, some of the high-ranking distributors began speaking.  oh, they also anounced to shut down cell phones as though i should lose contact with the outside world. </p>
<p>i actually became worried for these people sitting around me.  sad, lonely, dependent people, needing this so-called family.  i couldnt believe they actually fell for this.  i stayed listening to this, not for the product, for i had forgotten that, but for the interest in how these people could be sold into this, for a family. many of the surrounding people were disabled, old, lonely, many recently divorced as they had mentioned throughout the convention.  </p>
<p>they actually believed in this family.  GOD&#8217;S name continued to be mentioned as this went on.  i am a fairly religious person, however a normal one,  and became offended as they talked about owning planes, high dollar cars and houses in the name of THE LORD.  all this as the surrounding people i spoke to earlier, were hit by this failing ecomony and were praising this product, which they were putting their last dollar into.  it was though they were trying to buy a family and buy friends. maybe they could buy them.  as i listened to people around me, making plans to go out when they just met.  like a singles group that just rented a convention center.   </p>
<p>i have seen a cult which i even got out with video, as this was a top project in college. this convention was little different than that cult.  </p>
<p>i left feeling as though i should have taken the stand, telling these people what they were really buying into.  how they could really find people who cared and how they could begin to get rid of their dependent behavior and it wasnt through this.   i felt so bad for some of them, knowing when they realized the truth, how hurt and financially broke they could become.  </p>
<p>this convention went so overtime as the last speaker, the high-ranking guy with a plane, went on to talk about all topics of the BIBLE and then linking in to monavie and his plane, house, vacations, etc and how this product &#8220;backed by JESUS&#8221; could change everyone&#8217;s life, AND THESE PEOPLE BOUGHT INTO THIS!  i felt like i needed to go to confession, as though i sat through something wrong.</p>
<p>when i left, i really thought i was leaving a holy-roller cult.  i had such a headache, yet stayed till the end and was in shock of what i had just heard.  this alone, made me stop buying monavie.  the product didnt make me stop, but what appeared as a false prophet did.  </p>
<p>so, how can i believe in this, when these distributors are representing this product this way.  simple, I CANT!   </p>
<p>as for the only reason i entered into this, that is no longer. which i can say, i do miss sometimes.  </p>
<p>know this is only my opinion,  this is my view of what i witnessed.  monavie the product itself, might be a good product, for i didnt give it much time for any research or documented benefit.</p>
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		<title>By: Pete</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 14:54:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John, 
Sorry to hear that.  But with getting involved with any kind of business, it&#039;s wise to do research and understand what you&#039;ll be getting yourself into.  Understand the risks &amp; rewards and also look at the market you&#039;ll be competing in.

Understanding your position and personality in life will assist you in acheving success in whatever endever you persue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John,<br />
Sorry to hear that.  But with getting involved with any kind of business, it&#8217;s wise to do research and understand what you&#8217;ll be getting yourself into.  Understand the risks &amp; rewards and also look at the market you&#8217;ll be competing in.</p>
<p>Understanding your position and personality in life will assist you in acheving success in whatever endever you persue.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2009 22:57:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just to add something here, I am a person who was... in Monavie since the very beginning... I met all the highest leaders, went to dinner with them, went on trips with them to other conventions, etc... MonaVie became my life, that is all I thought of, and I believed in the product, gave it to my mother, and yes, it did help her high blood pressure, and truly has helped many people, I seen it for two years...

However, something I never told anyone, until now... my uncle died just a short while before I joined MonaVie... so I joined, with hopes of promoting health, and of course to make money, lots of it, retire young on it, and be able to start a family and live the life...

I had $65,000 CASH... paid off my debts, bought a car, and invested in every book, audio tape, seminar, one can imagine... and bought at least over 100!!! cases of Monavie, if not more... I shared the product, gave soooo much away, it helped people, but at the end, people who it helped, still didn&#039;t buy it... even through, honestly, they could of used it.

and do you know what? 3 years later, I am almost exactly where I was... I finally almost got my student loans paid off, and my credit card debt is gone... even though, it was paid off when I first got the money...

The stupidest thing, anyone who joins a home based business is buying the tools... That is the biggest waste of money. I probably spent over $8,000 on that stuff, hanging up flyers, posting them on cars, malls, doors, all wasted, while someone else became richer.

I did make money with Monavie, but what is $1,200 when it costed you $50,000? not having no idea what the hell I was doing, was the biggest and most expensive mistake I ever made in my life.

My uncle worked 75 years for that money, it was going to be used for college, and instead, with hopes and dreams of living a life where my lady and I could start a family, travel the world... that ended...

Sadly enough, the $50,000 I spent I could of used to travel the world, and still have plenty left...

As a rule... NEVER SPEND MORE THAN YOU CAN AFFORD TO LOSE!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just to add something here, I am a person who was&#8230; in Monavie since the very beginning&#8230; I met all the highest leaders, went to dinner with them, went on trips with them to other conventions, etc&#8230; MonaVie became my life, that is all I thought of, and I believed in the product, gave it to my mother, and yes, it did help her high blood pressure, and truly has helped many people, I seen it for two years&#8230;</p>
<p>However, something I never told anyone, until now&#8230; my uncle died just a short while before I joined MonaVie&#8230; so I joined, with hopes of promoting health, and of course to make money, lots of it, retire young on it, and be able to start a family and live the life&#8230;</p>
<p>I had $65,000 CASH&#8230; paid off my debts, bought a car, and invested in every book, audio tape, seminar, one can imagine&#8230; and bought at least over 100!!! cases of Monavie, if not more&#8230; I shared the product, gave soooo much away, it helped people, but at the end, people who it helped, still didn&#8217;t buy it&#8230; even through, honestly, they could of used it.</p>
<p>and do you know what? 3 years later, I am almost exactly where I was&#8230; I finally almost got my student loans paid off, and my credit card debt is gone&#8230; even though, it was paid off when I first got the money&#8230;</p>
<p>The stupidest thing, anyone who joins a home based business is buying the tools&#8230; That is the biggest waste of money. I probably spent over $8,000 on that stuff, hanging up flyers, posting them on cars, malls, doors, all wasted, while someone else became richer.</p>
<p>I did make money with Monavie, but what is $1,200 when it costed you $50,000? not having no idea what the hell I was doing, was the biggest and most expensive mistake I ever made in my life.</p>
<p>My uncle worked 75 years for that money, it was going to be used for college, and instead, with hopes and dreams of living a life where my lady and I could start a family, travel the world&#8230; that ended&#8230;</p>
<p>Sadly enough, the $50,000 I spent I could of used to travel the world, and still have plenty left&#8230;</p>
<p>As a rule&#8230; NEVER SPEND MORE THAN YOU CAN AFFORD TO LOSE!</p>
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		<title>By: Tracy Coenen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tracy Coenen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 17:23:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Newflash: In real businesses, the success rate is far greater than 1%. It&#039;s actually well above 50%. But why talk about real numbers when we can just pretend that MLM works.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Newflash: In real businesses, the success rate is far greater than 1%. It&#8217;s actually well above 50%. But why talk about real numbers when we can just pretend that MLM works.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 15:38:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Simplistic?  Realistic is more like it.  This is an obvious scam and the numbers don&#039;t lie.  It&#039;s not that just 1% &quot;succeed&quot; (if scamming others out of their money for an overpriced product is your definition of success) and make REAL money.  It&#039;s that the overwhelming majority make NOTHING and that the majority of those that are making some money are making less than minimum wage for their efforts.  Those insurance salespeople you referenced are making a living wage for their labor so you&#039;re comparing apples and oranges.  The guy working the taco stand that you mentioned is at least making minimum wage and the same can’t be said for most Monavie reps.  This is an obvious money making scam.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Simplistic?  Realistic is more like it.  This is an obvious scam and the numbers don&#8217;t lie.  It&#8217;s not that just 1% &#8220;succeed&#8221; (if scamming others out of their money for an overpriced product is your definition of success) and make REAL money.  It&#8217;s that the overwhelming majority make NOTHING and that the majority of those that are making some money are making less than minimum wage for their efforts.  Those insurance salespeople you referenced are making a living wage for their labor so you&#8217;re comparing apples and oranges.  The guy working the taco stand that you mentioned is at least making minimum wage and the same can’t be said for most Monavie reps.  This is an obvious money making scam.</p>
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