Cyberstalker Judd BagleyJudd Bagley, paid (NASDAQ:OSTK) cyberstalker (and now “Deep Capture reporter”) has openly admitted to using spyware against third parties. It has long been believed that he maliciously and inappropriately placed spyware on people’s computers, but this appears to be the first time he’s actually admitting to it.

He writes on the Investor Village message board under his screen name De Daumier-Smith:

Dan Schoenherr factoid
Back in the day (early to mid 2006), when I first started doing recon on the obviously paid bashers, my first master stroke was getting a tracking cookie placed on the laptop computer of Dan Schoenherr (also known as Wilburonefor3, HeadLizard, htis2008, etc, etc).

What made this so great, was being able to see where Dan was (based on his IP address) when he would access certain webpages.

As far as I know, putting spyware on someone’s computer without their knowledge or permission is not against any law. However, this certainly is completely unethical.

UPDATE: I must clarify my comments here. The ethics or lack thereof depend upon how Judd got the cookie on the computer. If Dan visited one of Judd’s sites, then a cookie could have been legitimately received. If, however, Judd used his methodology of secretly inserting tracking software in message board posts on sites he did not own, and where readers would have no reason to believe they’d be secretly receiving cookies from random outsiders, that would be unethical. Thanks for pointing this out to me, Judd. I forget that not everyone is aware of how your shenanigans work.


  1. Judd Bagley 07/25/2008 at 9:03 am - Reply

    Nice effort, Tracy, but it helps to understand what you’re writing about before committing something to print.

    A tracking cookie is not spyware. And if it were, you’d be guilty of a double infraction, since every visitor to your little blog picks up both ActiveMeter and Google Analytics tracking cookies.

    If you knew how either worked, you’d know that once an individual picks up such a cookie, it’s possible for you to see when they use the same computer to view your pages from distinct locations. The only difference is, I knew Dan Schoenherr’s IP address, just like you, as the web mistress, now know mine.

    Please either make the correction, or admit to your own double ethical breach.

  2. Nobody or maybe somebody 07/25/2008 at 3:50 pm - Reply

    The significant admission was made a year and a half ago.

    The key issue is tracking people across 3rd party websites (what he means when he says “remote”), regardless of where the cookie was inserted.

    The rest just creates strawmen to hide behind.

  3. Tracy Coenen 07/25/2008 at 4:01 pm - Reply

    Copying that linked post from InvestorVillage, in case it should go missing…

    It was posted by Judd Bagley under his screen name De Daumier-Smith:

    Re: Yahoo Dissembler Sorting
    I’m not saying I figured out the DSA, although I did figure out an innovative way around the daily ban limit Yahoo imposes. That stays with me.

    And the name is intentionally stalkinghorse-ish. The Dissemblers are the bashers we’re busting. Sorting is what you do when you put something in a database (mine has almost 1,000 linked username entries). And algorithm is probably just a word to intimidate the techno-feeble.

    The cool thing I figured out was using ActiveMeter on remote sites. Maybe its been done before (In fact, I’m sure it must have) but this iteration was developed independently by me and you have no idea the insights it has yielded.

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